Diskussionen und Austausch zur App 2.0

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31.08.2013 08:19:23 via App

Henrique, auch ich schätze Dein Engagement. Aber ich appelliere nochmal: Wieviel Stunden hast Du letzte Woche daran gearbeitet? Mach Wochenende! Nutze den Spätsommer! Gerade wenn es heiss zugeht, sollte man abschalten!

Die Tatsache, dass ich paranoid bin, heißt noch lange nicht, sie seien nicht hinter mir her!

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31.08.2013 08:34:07 via App

Ich kann nicht lesen Deutsch. Es tut mir leid. Mein Deutsch ist sehr schlecht.
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31.08.2013 08:42:37 via App

@Henrique,
es gibt Google Übersetzer :)

Viel Erfolg bei der Arbeit und häufig das Büro lüften ;-)


Zum Wachwerden gibt es einen Kaffee

— geändert am 31.08.2013 08:43:10

...man vergisst nicht..., man lebt nur weiter...

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31.08.2013 08:45:09 via App

Meine Mamma würde zu Henrique sagen:
"Du kriegst ja schon viereckige Augen!"
oder
"Ich zieh gleich den Stecker raus!"
; P

Reden ist Silber.
Schweigen ist Gold.
Meine Ausführungen sind Platin.
;)

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31.08.2013 08:55:13 via App

Henrique Rocha
Ich kann nicht lesen Deutsch. Es tut mir leid. Mein Deutsch ist sehr schlecht.


Henrique enjoy the weekend without working on the AndroidPIT app.....:)

ganz grob und schlecht übersetzt

Die Warheit schmeckt gut wenn man den Bauch voller Lügen hat! ~Muhammad Ali~

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31.08.2013 09:08:47 via App

Henrique Rocha
Guten Morgen,
Frühstück, dann arbeiten im Forum.
Ich mache das perfekte Forum für Sie.
Schönes Wochenende.
Guten Morgen Henrique,

Willkommen hier im Forum :lol:

Lass es Dir schmecken und frohes schaffen.. :)

Good morning and welcome to the forum.. :lol:

Enjoy breakfast and work.. :lol:

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31.08.2013 09:14:22 via App

Henrique Rocha
Ich kann nicht lesen Deutsch. Es tut mir leid. Mein Deutsch ist sehr schlecht.

Henrique , I also appreciate your commitment . But I appeal again: How many hours did you work last week about it? Enjoy the weekend! Take advantage of the late summer ! Especially when there is a lot of work, you should relax!

Die Tatsache, dass ich paranoid bin, heißt noch lange nicht, sie seien nicht hinter mir her!

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31.08.2013 09:39:35 via App

Ralph
Henrique Rocha
Ich kann nicht lesen Deutsch. Es tut mir leid. Mein Deutsch ist sehr schlecht.

Henrique , I also appreciate your commitment . But I appeal again: How many hours did you work last week about it? Enjoy the weekend! Take advantage of the late summer ! Especially when there is a lot of work, you should relax!
+1

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31.08.2013 10:24:37 via App

Carsten Müller
Hi AndroidPIT,

ist ja schön, dass man jetzt mit "Jump to page" (englisch!) im Menü auf bestimmte Seiten wechseln kann. Aber das UI davon, das kann Bitte nicht Euer Ernst sein. Bitte bitte schaut Euch genau an, wie das in der alten App gelöst war und implementiert das bitte auf ähnliche, halbwegs intelligente Weise. So, wie Ihr es jetzt gebastelt habt, ist das kaum besser als wäre das Feature gar nicht da.

Kopfschüttelnde Grüße

Carsten

Also meiner Meinung nach ist das OK so :)
Was ganz witzig ist: Wenn man bei "jump to page" beispielsweise zu Seite 5 möchte und statt der 5, die 05 eintippt kommt man sofort auf Seite 1

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31.08.2013 10:43:18 via Website

Die alte App macht es nicht richtig.
Der richtige Weg ist, um die Android NumberPicker verwenden.

http://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/pickers.html

Pickers provide a simple way to select a single value from a set. In addition to touching the up/down arrow buttons, it's possible to set the desired value from the keyboard or via a swipe gesture.
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31.08.2013 11:53:25 via Website

Kurze Frage : Kann man die Anmeldedaten für die App 2.0 irgendwo speichern ?
Wenn JA , in der App selber oder in den Einstellungen des Androiden ?

— geändert am 31.08.2013 11:54:11

Nett, kann ich auch, bringt aber nichts 😀

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31.08.2013 12:01:16 via App

Hello excuse me disturb you but AndroidPIT 2.0 application in French lacks functionality compared to the German language we lack the status of the profile pictures and he impossible to create a topic is this normal ?

Je vous aide avec un grand plaisir ! Bryan :)

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31.08.2013 12:17:13 via Website

Hi Henrique,

Henrique Rocha
Die alte App macht es nicht richtig.
Der richtige Weg ist, um die Android NumberPicker verwenden.

http://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/pickers.html

Pickers provide a simple way to select a single value from a set. In addition to touching the up/down arrow buttons, it's possible to set the desired value from the keyboard or via a swipe gesture.
Well, there's no right or wrong, but only useful/usable or not useful/usable.

Please don't use the Google developer guide lines as a bible without any failures. I highly recommend to think about features and usability for your own. The Google guide lines were not explicit dedicated to create a community forum app - these guide lines just give a rough direction. They never ment to be strict requirements. There would be *no* invention if everybody would do exactly what Google defined in their guide lines.

In terms of this "jump to page" feature, there are several things that make this feature not perfect.

1) The feature only appears within a thread to jump to the thread pages. We also need that feature for travelling through the pages of each thread listing.

2) There's no indictator within a thread listing or a thread, on which page I am. But this is important as the user needs some orientation. See the old app - the indicator where I am is shown in the upper right corner of each thread or page.

3) The number picker dialog you created, is scrolling way to slow. Try it with a thread like "Millionenzähler" which has several thousands of pages. And compare the behaviour and speed with the scrolling speed of the listview in the old app.

4) The number picker looks not clear. See the number picker sample at the web page you mentioned - there's a clear difference between the maximum and minimum value and the entry field (entry field black font, max/min values grey font). In your dialog it's all the same font and color and as I opend it the first time, I didn't know what to do. I saw three numbers separated by blue lines - that's not intuitive and self-explanatory.

Again, please see the things not only from a developer perspective who is fixated on Google guide lines. Please see the things from a user and usability perspective. This app, the forum, the magazin and your app section is a very vital part of the business of your company. And a community forum has to be designed to encourage users to use it, to create threads, to read and to help others. Therefore the app needs to be intuitive and fast. It must provide intelligent features to handle the forum and travelling through it. Every missing vital feature, every lack of usability will cost your company users and customers.

Keep up your great work, but please think a bit more about the features UI you're implementing. Not only the design is key, but most of all the usability!

Best regards,

Carsten

Ich komm' mir langsam vor wie jemand, der ich bin // #cäthe

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31.08.2013 12:29:16 via App

Was ich ja lustig finde das unter aktuelle threads 3 alte von mir sind in die kein schwein seit Ewigkeiten gepostet hat

Servus/Apfel?Nicht Freiwillig\

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31.08.2013 12:44:46 via App

Carsten Müller
Hi Henrique,

Henrique Rocha
Die alte App macht es nicht richtig.
Der richtige Weg ist, um die Android NumberPicker verwenden.

http://developer.android.com/design/building-blocks/pickers.html

Pickers provide a simple way to select a single value from a set. In addition to touching the up/down arrow buttons, it's possible to set the desired value from the keyboard or via a swipe gesture.
Well, there's no right or wrong, but only useful/usable or not useful/usable.

Please don't use the Google developer guide lines as a bible without any failures. I highly recommend to think about features and usability for your own. The Google guide lines were not explicit dedicated to create a community forum app - these guide lines just give a rough direction. They never ment to be strict requirements. There would be *no* invention if everybody would do exactly what Google defined in their guide lines.

In terms of this "jump to page" feature, there are several things that make this feature not perfect.

1) The feature only appears within a thread to jump to the thread pages. We also need that feature for travelling through the pages of each thread listing.

2) There's no indictator within a thread listing or a thread, on which page I am. But this is important as the user needs some orientation. See the old app - the indicator where I am is shown in the upper right corner of each thread or page.

3) The number picker dialog you created, is scrolling way to slow. Try it with a thread like "Millionenzähler" which has several thousands of pages. And compare the behaviour and speed with the scrolling speed of the listview in the old app.

4) The number picker looks not clear. See the number picker sample at the web page you mentioned - there's a clear difference between the maximum and minimum value and the entry field (entry field black font, max/min values grey font). In your dialog it's all the same font and color and as I opend it the first time, I didn't know what to do. I saw three numbers separated by blue lines - that's not intuitive and self-explanatory.

Again, please see the things not only from a developer perspective who is fixated on Google guide lines. Please see the things from a user and usability perspective. This app, the forum, the magazin and your app section is a very vital part of the business of your company. And a community forum has to be designed to encourage users to use it, to create threads, to read and to help others. Therefore the app needs to be intuitive and fast. It must provide intelligent features to handle the forum and travelling through it. Every missing vital feature, every lack of usability will cost your company users and customers.

Keep up your great work, but please think a bit more about the features UI you're implementing. Not only the design is key, but most of all the usability!

Best regards,

Carsten
+1

Nett, kann ich auch, bringt aber nichts 😀

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31.08.2013 12:50:46 via Website

You should never use what you're used to as a guideline. The new app uses a different UI, it's not supposed to look like the old app, everyone will need to adapt, which should be very easy because we're using the same UI concepts that Google apps use.

The website I gave is the usability and user experience guidelines for Android. It's not from a developer perspective.

In the old app, the behavior is not intuitive because it jumps from page 21 to 31 for example. What if I want to jump to page 22? It doesn't make sense to go to page 21 and then press next. Since it jumps every 10 pages, it's obviously faster to navigate. The "one million thread" is not representative of the German forum.

The jump to page feature that is now implemented was a quick fix because all of you were crying for that feature. It will improve.

Also, the "jump to page" feature actually depends on the user knowing to which page to jump to in advance, which might change if the number of items per page changes. Even worse, having to long press to jump to a page is even worse, that's why we now have the "jump to page" in the action bar.

The long press in a thread to show options is also not intuitive, that is also going to be changed. Only users that know that behavior from the old app or actually try long pressing to see what happens, will know that something is there.
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31.08.2013 12:56:36 via Website

Sgt G.
Bin ich hier im englischen AP oder was :D
Nein. Der Entwickler der App kann kein englisch. wtf? Kein Deutsch meinte ich natürlich

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31.08.2013 12:58:54 via App

Ja, ich schreibe nicht mehr im Forum. Ich habe viel Arbeit.

— geändert am 31.08.2013 12:59:36